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geeklover80 ([personal profile] geeklover80) wrote2013-05-04 02:29 am

Toxic Fumes

I've always used Clorox bleach spray to clean the kitchen and clean Michael and my bathroom. I didn't use it at first. I used regular bathroom cleaner and this machine that machine bought to get rid of mold. But neither of those worked for the mold in our shower, but the Clorox does, for the most part. So I use it all the time. But I'm always worried about the chemicals being bad for me.

I was cleaning the kitchen and then the bathroom a couple of days ago and afterwards I got really queasy and had a bad headache. I think though that was mostly due to me, not only not cleaning on my usual day but doing it on my fasting day. I hadn't had anything to eat all day at that point. But still, I just would like to find an alternative to using the Clorox. Does anyone have any good cleaning products they use that aren't terribly unhealthy?

Also while I'm soliciting advice, does anyone know where to find a good strapless bra for a D cup? I've tried for years to find on with no success. The last one I bought I thought was going to work out, but it's just as crappy as the rest of them. It slips down whenever I lean over and I'm constantly having to tug it up. I wear a lot of shirts and t-shirts that kind of require strapless, but I've had no luck.

TIA

Stacey

[identity profile] teprometo.livejournal.com 2013-05-04 07:00 am (UTC)(link)
Eeesh. I scrubbed the shower today using an organic cleaning spray, and I had a headache and felt queasy by the end. I think we might just be allergic to cleaning. ;-) I've never had to battle mold before, so I'm not sure what to recommend.

Good luck finding a strapless bra that works! I'm only a B cup, and I've never found one that doesn't fall down. WORST! I can get away with just not wearing a bra, though. I imagine you're not so fortunate.

[identity profile] geekslave.livejournal.com 2013-05-05 06:20 am (UTC)(link)
LOL allergic to cleaning. That's probably it. :)

Stacey
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[identity profile] geekslave.livejournal.com 2013-05-05 06:21 am (UTC)(link)
I usually keep the door open, open the window, and turn on the ventilation system. It doesn't really do much. I might use too much of it.

Stacey

[identity profile] gatty.livejournal.com 2013-05-04 09:18 am (UTC)(link)
I use Bravissimo (http://www.bravissimo.com/) for all bra related things. I haven't bought a strapless bra for a while, but my memories of the one from here are pretty good - though I can't remember which particular brand it was. But I think as long as you get a smaller backsize then usual they're pretty reliable.

[identity profile] geekslave.livejournal.com 2013-05-05 06:23 am (UTC)(link)
Checked out the site. Looks like they do have a good selection of strapless bras. One woman was talking about being a size J and the bras really being supportive, so that's definitely a good endorsement. I'm a little worried about what my bank would charge me for the money conversion. They said there could be some kind of fee for that.

Stacey
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[personal profile] scribblemoose 2013-05-04 09:59 am (UTC)(link)
White vinegar cleans pretty much everything, and has excellent anti-bacterial properties. Highly recommended, safe for the environment and really cheap!

For really good cleaning tips I'd recommend unfuckyourhabitat on Tumblr - some great ideas there.

Can't help with bra though. An eternal quest!

[identity profile] geekslave.livejournal.com 2013-05-05 06:24 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks for the recommendation.

A lot of others said the same thing about vinegar. My boyfriend said he'd heard about it, too. We're definitely going to try that.

Stacey
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[personal profile] clawdine 2013-05-04 10:31 am (UTC)(link)
Like what [livejournal.com profile] scribblemoose said, white vinegar! :) You can use it for clothing stains like sweat too.

[identity profile] geekslave.livejournal.com 2013-05-05 06:25 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks! I'm definitely going to give that a try.

Stacey.
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[identity profile] geekslave.livejournal.com 2013-05-05 06:26 am (UTC)(link)
Kohl's. We have one of those around here. I'll definitely check it out.

Stacey

[identity profile] bleodswean.livejournal.com 2013-05-04 01:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Chemical pneumonia is a real thing and bleach can lead to this condition - especially bleach mixed with other chemical cleaning solutions. I highly recommend not using bleach. It's destructive. A 1:1 solution of white vinegar and warm water in a spray bottle can clean just about anything in your home! You can add a bit of dish detergent if you like. I do windows, wood, cabinets, my lacquered grand piano, the bathroom....

athleta.com has some great supportive underwires.

[identity profile] geekslave.livejournal.com 2013-05-05 06:29 am (UTC)(link)
Mike also mentioned that he'd heard about how great vinegar works and how it's a great disinfectant and actually gives a deeper clean than bleach, so we're definitely going to try that.

Thanks for the rec.

Stacey
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[identity profile] geekslave.livejournal.com 2013-05-05 06:30 am (UTC)(link)
Checked out the site. Lots of good stuff there, thanks.

I'm definitely going to try that baking soda scrub. Thanks!

Stacey

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[identity profile] geekslave.livejournal.com 2013-05-05 06:33 am (UTC)(link)
Bleach definitely makes my eyes water. I open the one window in the bathroom, keep the door open, and turn on the ventilation system. It doesn't help a lot. The eyes watering is even worse when I'm cleaning the shower floor.

Definitely going to try vinegar. Thanks.

Stacey

[identity profile] inspired-being.livejournal.com 2013-05-05 01:42 pm (UTC)(link)
From previous comments, I'd say it was the amount you are using, time you spend and how close you are getting to the bleach rather than the ventilation. Eg, if you have your head right next to the surface, no amount of ventilation is going to stop you from inhaling it (though I doubt you are that silly). Whenever I use anything with strong fumes, I tend to just cover my nose and mouth until the fumes have become diluted in the air.

Having a chemistry background, I always find it funny when people talk about 'natural' cleaning products like vinegar, baking soda and lemon juice, which are basically just dilute acetic acid, sodium bicarbonate and citric acid. They all have good cleaning properties, but may take a bit more elbow grease or need to be left on the surface so they have time to work. Not that I've used them to clean much.

As for the bra, I wish I could help. I'm a D too and brought a strapless bra a few months ago which has been better than any I've had previously (with actual support and not falling out), but I'm not sure they'd have them in US. So good luck with the search!

[identity profile] geekslave.livejournal.com 2013-05-07 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
I've thought about using a mask when I clean with the Clorox.

Nice hearing from a somewhat extra. I had a feeling that using the vinegar, you'd probably have to leave it on a little bit longer.

Thanks.

Stacey

[identity profile] tuut-harold.livejournal.com 2013-05-06 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't have any advice on cleaning products, but I'd say it was probably the lack of food that didn't help much...maybe just use regular cleaner and only use the bleach for the spots you can't get away, every two weeks or so?

I know the problem, I'm a C cup in the netherlands and a D cup in england and it's quite hard to find a good strapless one. Maybe try something with see-through straps, or one of those straps that you can wear like an X on your back?

[identity profile] geekslave.livejournal.com 2013-05-07 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
I do have a halter type bra with the X shape in the back. I don't have any clear straps, that could probably help, too. Thanks.

Stacey