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I'm starting to wonder if I should just binge watch shows from now on - at least dramas. The last few dramas that I've binge watched - Teen Wolf, Pretty Little Liars, and The Vampire Diaries- I really, really loved when I was binge watching them on Netflix, but when I started watching the shows on a week to week basis I've found myself beyond frustrated with them. I think with TWD and PLL the frustrations did start before I finished binge watching them. With TW it didn't really start until late into season 3A.

It's not really that I can't deal with cliffhangers, but I think when I watch the shows as a whole season, it makes it easier to ignore some of the glaring plotholes, or what seem like plotholes, when you get to see the whole story and see the bigger picture, and being able to see where the story ended up makes it easier to forgive annoying details or filler episodes, especially shows like these that generally have season long arcs. When I watch on a week to week basis, and have time in between episodes to really sit and think about, and wonder, where the plot is going it makes it easier to get frustrated, and really have time to examine the writing and any defects.

Also, maybe I just need to go in with lower expectations. Like maybe I would enjoy Teen Wolf more if I turned off my brain and stopped worrying about lazy plotting and logical lunacy. That's hard for me to do, but I know I can do it, for the most part. I've been comparing TW a lot to Merlin lately, and I was able to do that with Merlin. But with Merlin I was basically watching for Merlin/Arthur. That relationship, and the characters as individuals I cared about so much that I was able to put up with a lot. TW doesn't really have that, it doesn't have a relationship that I'm that emotionally investes. The closest I had to that with TW was Scott/Isaac, and I'm pretty much resigning myself to Isaac dying on tonight's episode, so I probably won't have that. I really do love and adore Scott and Stiles' friendship, but it's not the same kind of investment I had in Merlin/Arthur.

Though I don't know if high expectations is the problem since I didn't have those with TVD or PLL. I pretty much knew going on that I would hate the triangle in TVD, and I was right. I was done with that early season 2. I had no real expectations or ideas about what the show would be, beyond that. With PLL, I was well aware that major questions like 'Who killed Allison' or 'Who is A' wouldn't get answered until the end, or close to it. Which is why I thought it was smart that they were building other mysteries besides those. But five years later and they're only now getting around to answering basic questions, while still pouring on new mysteries. It's like can you just deal with the bullshit you've already doled out, before heaping on some fresh crap.

I think TW has an edge on the other shows because while I'm really, really, really frustrated with it, that kind of frustration is born because I love the show and am just disappointed that it's not living up to its potential. It had such a great set-up from the end of last season to really do something with Scott, Allison, and Stiles' sacrifice and I was really expecting that trio to really be connected, and yet they barely interacted all season. It just squanders away amazing opportunities. While their numbers are slowly dying, I still have a lot of characters and relationships I care about that'll keep me sticking around. And yet, I can't remember the last time I was this much dreading a season finale, probably the last time was Merlin. I'm actually considering just not watching tonight, allowing myself to be spoiled and just catching it on Tuesday.

With TVD, I think it's best days are long since behind them. I have characters and relationships that I like. But so many of the characters are reprehensible and the morals on the show are really fucked up, and I don't think the writers really want to acknowledge that and truly deal with it, so it becomes hard to root for almost anyone, and hard to defend even the people you like. When you hate 2/3 of the leads, who take up probably 80% of the airtime, it's hard to stay enthused. And yet, TVD still entertains me for the most part, so I'll stick around. It hasn't committed the cardinal sin of being too boring. Which brings me to PLL...

I might seriously be done with the show. There have been so many times this season I could barely bring myself to watch an episode. I'd miss huge chunks of episodes and not even bother to go back. I'm basically still watching because I've invested five years in getting answers and I don't want to quit until I get them. But it's not like I really give a shit what happens to any of the characters. I'm not hugely invested in any of them anymore and the show bores me. The addition of Allison being out alive and being integrated into the group is slightly interesting, but I don't know if that'll be enough to keep me watching. I'll probably just read spoilers and catch the "big" episodes where things actually happen.

I really hope Archer doesn't disappoint when I get done binge watching it. Though even for an animated show, I doubt it'll have the kind of logic lapses and insane plot holes these shows have had. And I don't seem them randomly killing off main characters because that's the limit to their writing creativity.

Stacey

Date: 2014-03-24 08:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bleodswean.livejournal.com
*nods* I absolutely support binge watching of Shows that are completed. I think it makes for better viewing, better comprehension of story and character and ultimately is far more satisfying as an experience. Most of my shows I've binge-watched. I get frustrated waiting between episodes and crazy waiting between seasons and heartbroken if a show is cancelled.

Date: 2014-03-26 12:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geekslave.livejournal.com
My fiance Mike is definitely a fan of the idea of binge watching. He also gets frustrated having to wait between seasons and he also has memory issues, and even with long "previouslies" he forgets plot details, if he has to wait for shows.

There are so many shows that I want to watch that I have to binge watch certain ones to catch up. And I also get heartbroken when shows get cancelled, so certain shows I wait around to see if they're going to stick around before I start them, like "Hannibal."

But for the most part I don't have the patience to wait around for certain shows. Like I had to catch Mike up on eight season of "Supernatural" and I don't think I could have waited eight years to watch that show.

Stacey

Date: 2014-03-24 08:35 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sandrine
I don't actually think this has something to do with binge watching vs. one episode a week - it might, in general, but with those three shows, they all too a horrible quality-plunge lately. TW lost the plot somewhere during 3A, PLL totally jumped the shark after the Halloween episode of S3, and the way TVD handled the story line when Elena got turned (and just about everything beyond) has been appalling.

The closest I had to that with TW was Scott/Isaac, and I'm pretty much resigning myself to Isaac dying on tonight's episode, so I probably won't have that.

Urgh, I hope for you that they don't kill Isaac! :(

I'm not sure if I believe they'd kill another character so central and important shortly after Allison died. My money is on Danny, actually, or one of the twins.

Date: 2014-03-26 12:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geekslave.livejournal.com
That is true. And I do agree with you about where all of those shows lost the plot.

Thankfully, they didn't kill him and one of the twins died. But he's still leaving and the finale was still underwhelming.

Stacey

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Date: 2014-03-24 08:46 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rheasilvia.livejournal.com
It's a very interesting point that some shows do better when being sucked up in a continuous stream during a binge-watch marathon, and others shine when each ep is given time to be evaluated individually. I feel exactly the same way, and I think it's generally flawed and badly plotted and/or characterized shows that benefit the most from a binge watching. Definitely something I'll be thinking about...

Date: 2014-03-26 02:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geekslave.livejournal.com
Yeah, I do think shows are that are fast-paced and/or have a lot of flaws but are fun can be good to binge watch, because it does get easier to not get bothered by the plot inconsistencies.

Stacey

Date: 2014-03-25 02:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dunderklumpen.livejournal.com
I'm a curious person and hate to wait. That's why watching a series in more or less one go is so much more fun. But I know that when I watch a series week by week I tend to remember the characters and storylines better in general. I often mix up stories and or guest appearances if I watcch it in one go.

Plus it also depends highly on the series. The whole second half of TW's season 3 for example was shot like one big movie. The story starts usually were it ended last episode and they're meant to watch it in one long go. The current season of The Walking Dead on the other hand could be watched weekly without any problems.

The last series I watched in one go was "Orange is the new Black". It was surprisingly good!

Date: 2014-03-26 02:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geekslave.livejournal.com
It is nice to get to watch shows in one fell swoop, so to speak because you don't have to wait for cliffhangers and all that. But having to wait to catch full seasons of shows sometimes takes too long for me. And I don't want to wait, especially since it's so easy to get spoiled.

I do think this season of TWD could easily watched week to week. Though I've been doing mini-binge watches of those because my fiance likes the show and prefers not having deal with cliffhangers.

OITNB is another show on my to watch list.

Stacey

Date: 2014-03-25 06:12 pm (UTC)
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I have given up on TVD this season... I still haven't seen the last two episodes of last season. I am so, so, so behind.

TW I am almost finally caught up.

I just need 23 and 24... which aired last night.

I feel like other shows have taken a better interest w/ me such as Arrow, The Good Wife, Grey's Anatomy, and The White Collar...and SUITS is back.

SIGH.

I'll never catch up.

Never. <3

Date: 2014-03-26 02:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geekslave.livejournal.com
I totally feel you on feeling like you'll never be able to catch up. I also have sooooo many shows I want to start, and have yet to, like "Arrow", "Suits", and "The Good Wife."

Stacey
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Date: 2014-03-29 05:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geekslave.livejournal.com
Yay, I'm glad there's still hope for Archer. I've still heard good things about it, so I think I'll still enjoy it when I'm caught up.

Stacey

Date: 2014-06-04 03:50 am (UTC)
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Happy birthday! Hope you have a great day.

Date: 2014-06-04 03:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geekslave.livejournal.com
Awww! Thank you! :)) I hope it will be. Seeing the new "X-Men" and my fiance is making me dinner.

Stacey

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